I originally saw this warning at a
page on at Asia Times Online website but it was retracted a few hours later. You
can view the
retraction and I have included most of the relevant text below on this page.
There is a good article about this
story at Earth Changes TV and there is more at the 'Details
Here' website. Although the verdict of the
Snopes website is that the
statement is a hoax, the evidence that they do have suggests it wasn't written
with the intention of being read by an English speaking audience, and they don't
know who wrote it originally.
The Interview:
Al-Jazeera was granted an interview with one Mohammed al-Usuquf, allegedly al-Qaeda's
number three. Al-Usuquf's most startling revelation is that "Atomic bombs won't
be launched, they are already there". "Seven nuclear heads have already been
positioned on American soil, before September 11, and they are ready to be
detonated. Before September 11, American security was a fiasco, and even later,
if we needed, we could position the bombs there. They arrived through seaports,
as normal cargo. A nuclear head is not bigger than a fridge, so it can easily be
camouflaged as one. Thousands of containers arrive at a seaport every day, and
even with very efficient security, it's impossible to check and examine each one
of them."
Al-Usuquf says that the bombs were
bought on the black market: five from the former USSR and two from Pakistan. The
five Russian heads "are from T-3 missiles, also known as RD-107, and their power
is around 100 kilotons each, that is five times the Hiroshima bomb. The
Pakistani ones are less powerful, something around 10 kilotons each."
Each of the Russian bombs would
have cost around $200 million. Al-Qaeda was able to raise the money "because we
have many sponsors. Many countries sponsor us, and also some very rich people."
And not all of these are Arab countries. "Some European countries as well are
also interested in the fall of the US." As to the "rich people", they are
"people who are also tired of seeing the US bleeding the rest of the world."
And Iraq's Saddam Hussein, says Al-Usuquf,
is not one of these people, "but just a collaborator, represented by Abdul Tawab
Hawaish, his vice prime minister and responsible for Iraq's arms program".
Al-Usuquf says that the bombs
cannot be detected by US authorities. "Even if they are old, they were
modernized and are very well hidden. Even if they were located, they have
auto-detonation mechanisms in case something or someone gets close. Even an
electromagnetic pulse is not capable of deactivating them." The bombs allegedly
cannot be detected because "they are enveloped in thick layers of lead". They
could be detonated "by various methods - cell phone call, radio frequency,
seismic shock or by their regressive clock".
Al-Usuquf details the whole plan.
"First, one head would be detonated, which would cause the deaths of 800,000 to
1 million people and a chaos never seen before. During this chaos, two or three
planes, which are now disassembled inside barns near empty roads in the US
countryside, would take off in suicide missions to pulverize another two or
three big American cities with chemicals. Once the disease was identified, all
seaports and airports would be quarantined. Land borders would also be closed.
No plane, boat or car would enter or leave the US. This would be total chaos."
The first target would be the city "that would offer the best conditions, for
example bright sky and winds of eight or more miles an hour blowing towards the
center of the country, so radioactive dust can contaminate the largest possible
area".
This attack would not knock out the
US, recognizes al-Usuquf, "But the process would be initiated. As with the World
Trade Center, it would be just a question of time for the whole economic
structure to be turned to dust. If the objectives are reached with one bomb and
diseases, probably we will save the lives of other people, but it's risky, and
probably six more bombs will be detonated, one a week, and more attacks with
chemical weapons will be launched." According to estimates made by al-Usuquf
"and Ayman al-Zawahiri", al-Qaeda's number 2, about 15 million people would die,
victims of the bombs and the radiation. Among those contaminated by diseases,
"25 percent will die, a figure around more than 5 million, plus many others due
to the chaos and disorder".
Al-Usuquf does not fear an American
military response. "Even if five or 10 cities are chosen at random to be
destroyed, it will still be a small price to pay. The problem is that the
economic despair will be so great that even if it saves [money] by not using
weapons, American liquidity will be near zero, and the US will make more money
selling a Nimitz-class aircraft carrier to Turkey or Italy for $5 billion,
because they will urgently need to recapitalize. But it will be too late.
Moreover, what will remain of an American soldier's morale to fight knowing that
his whole family died and his country ceased to exist? To fight for what?"
The world economy would not
collapse, says al-Usuquf, although "in the beginning, it will be very difficult.
But without the US the world will soon rise in a more just and fraternal manner.
Nothing can stop the plan."
And whatever America does, "it's
too late." When will the attack begin? "I can't tell."
Newer Version
Sunday, December 7, 2003
Q: "How does Al Qaeda intend to
destroy the most powerful nation in
history?"
A: "It's a question of logistics.
Using its own poison, that is,
attacking the heart of what they consider the most important thing in
the world: money." -Mr. Mohammed Al-Asuquf, Al Qaeda Third-in-command
Al-Asuquf: "The beginning will be
the detonation of a nuclear device,
which will cause the death of between 800 thousand and one million
people and create chaos on a scale never seen before. During this
chaos, two or three crop sprayers that are now dismantled and stored
in granaries [silos?] close to little-used highways in the
countryside will take off on suicide missions to spray two or three
large American cities with smallpox. That means that once the
smallpox has been identified, all airports and seaports will be
closed by quarantine. Land borders will likewise be shut down. Not
one airplane, ship or vehicle will enter or leave the United States.
This will cause total chaos. White House Press secretary Ari
Fleischman will be very busy."
HOW, WHY AND WHEN TO DESTROY THE UNITED STATES
Is this interview a hoax as the "powers-that-be" want us to believe?
When you read it, you will see why it has been suppressed, especially
to citizens in the United States...
Yes, it is a hoax, to the extent
the masses continue to believe in
the reality of Al Qaeda, rather than its creators-worldwide
intelligence agencies funding the whole show, and in the case of the
Mossad, its actual participation at strategic intervals.
December 1, 2002 -
The following interview was
conducted by a reporter for the Al-
Jazeera network with the third-in-command of the Al Qaeda
organization, Mr. Mohammed Al-Asuquf. Al-Asuquf's background is
impressive; a doctorate in physics and masters in international
economics. In the interview, he talks of Al Qaeda's plans with total
detachment, with deep knowledge and an unshakeable commitment to his
cause.
This interview was sent to Abel-Bari
Atwan, chief editor of Al Quds,
an Arabic-language newspaper published in London, but was never
printed, due to its highly revealing [inflammatory?] contents. A copy
of the interview came to Foz-do-Iguaçu, and was translated into
Portuguese by a university professor in the city's Arab community.
This is probably the only existing
version of this interview not in
Arabic.
Al-Jazeera: What is the objective
of the Al Qaeda network?
Al-Asuquf: To destroy the Great
Satan, that is, the United States and
Israel.
Incorrect, the Great Satan is the
reptilian/Illuminati cabal
manipulating the world's power positions.
Al-Jazeera: Why?
Al-Asuquf: The USA over the past 60
years has been impregnating
[infecting] the world with its arrogance, greed and malfeasance. It
is the incarnation of all that is evil. The people of this planet
don't deserve this torture.
There is no USA per se; the
satanically controlled leadership marches
to the drumbeat of the long planned agenda for singular global
control, currently in its final stages. The destruction of the US,
via the Trojan horse of terrorism, is the created problem, while also
serving as a final catalyst for global governance.
Al-Jazeera: Isn't this view
somewhat one-sided?
Of course it is, how else could
conflict be elevated unless both
sides created reasons to do so.
Al-Asuquf: No; one only has to
observe recent events. The disrespect
of the Kyoto treaty; the case of the Permanent Court of International
Justice, their inaction with regards to our Palestinian brothers; the
financial greed and absurd speculations in Third World countries; the
complete indifference to other oppressed people and countless other
situations which all of the world's leaders well know. And on top of
all that, the Bush doctrine of "shoot first and ask questions later."
This is an unacceptable abuse and will therefore have very grave
consequences.
Who can argue with those
statements?
Al-Jazeera: But the isn't the
development and influence of America
the fruit of its own competence?
Al-Asuquf: Competence in extortion,
competence in subjugation,
competence in lying. After the Second World War, the USA was the only
industrialized country with its manufacturing infrastructure intact.
Loaning money like a good loan shark, it ended up becoming a very
rich and powerful country; however, its greed remained undiminished.
Today, Americans live like maharajas [?], wasting more than any other
people, spending more than $80 billion per year just on gambling.
They've lost any notion of spirituality and live in constant sin.
With each passing day the USA demonstrates that it doesn't know how
to live with other peoples; for this, it deserves destruction.
Yes, this is true, but the U.S.
change of character is simply the
movie being played out, regardless of whether Al-Asuquf is a willing
pawn or not.
Al-Jazeera: Wouldn't it be easier
to simply assassinate President
George Bush?
Al-Asuquf: In the first place, it
would do no good, other than
turning him into a martyr. When you face a powerful enemy, the best
strategy is not to kill him, but to make him lose his leadership due
to his incompetence, and let him live to watch this unfold.
His removal is immaterial.
Al-Jazeera: Does the Al Qaeda
network have the military capacity to
make war on the United States?
Al-Asuquf: If we analyze history,
we will see that all great wars,
before they were started, were based on previously established
concepts [of war]. But if we observe well, we will see that these
concepts and strategies came to nothing, since a new type of war was
ultimately waged. An example is the construction of the Maginot line
by the French before the First World War, which, in reality proved to
be completely useless against the invading forces. Aircraft carriers,
nuclear submarines, and spy satellites will be useless in the next
war.
Al-Jazeera: American authorities
hold more than 1,000 people
suspected of terrorism since September 11th. Won't this compromise Al
Queda's plans?
Al-Asuquf: Of those imprisoned,
perhaps 20 to 30 percent belong to Al
Queda. Moreover, they are from the second echelon. We have more than
500 members of the first echelon and 800 from the second, inside the
United States.
Al-Jazeera: What do you mean by
first and second echelons?
Al-Asuquf: In the first echelon are
Al Qaeda members who have been in
the United States for more than 10 years, many married with children.
They have detailed knowledge of our plans and are just waiting for a
phone call. They are also known as "sleepers." Those of the second
echelon have arrived in the last five years and have no idea of our
plans.
Al-Jazeera: Are even those who are
married, with children, ready to
die with their families?
Al-Asuquf: Yes. All of them are
ready to die. Long live September
11th.
Yes, it was the kickoff to the big
party.
Al-Jazeera: What was September 11th
to Al Qaeda's overall plans?
Al-Asuquf: As a general step, it
was just the beginning. It was a way
of calling the world's attention to what is still to come.
Al-Jazeera: How many members does
Al Qaeda have?
Al-Asuquf: In the first echelon,
about 5,000; in the second, about
20,000, all over the world.
Al-Jazeera: In the detention camp
at Guantanamo, are there any
members of the first echelon?
Al-Asuquf: No, in fact, many of
those there are not even Al Qaeda
members.
Al-Jazeera: How does Al Qaeda
intend to destroy the most powerful
nation in history?
Al-Asuquf: It's a question of
logistics. Using its own poison, that
is, attacking the heart of what they consider the most important
thing in the world: money.
Al-Jazeera: How so?
Al-Asuquf: The American economy is
an economy of false appearances.
There is no real economic ballast to the American economy. The
American GDP of is something around $10 trillion, of which just 1
percent represents agriculture, and just 24 percent represents
industry. Therefore, 75 percent of the American GDP is service and
most of this is financial speculation. For those who understand
economics, and it appears that the American Secretary of the
Treasury, Paul O'Neil, doesn't or doesn't see it, it's enough to say
that the USA acts like a huge "dot-com," and dollars, strictly
speaking, are its shares.
Al-Jazeera: Can you explain that?
Al-Asuquf: The value of a company's
shares is directly proportional
to the profitability of the enterprise. When a business is just a
service provider and doesn't produce any durable goods, the value of
its shares depends on its credibility. Which is to say that if the
credibility of the USA were shaken, its shares (the dollar) would
fall with incredible rapidity and the entire American economy would
begin to collapse.
Al-Jazeera: How can you be so sure
of this?
Al-Asuquf: On a smaller scale, it's
exactly what large financial
groups do to the countries of the third world to reap profits in one
month that Swiss banks couldn't get in four or five years.
Al-Jazeera: So how will Al Qaeda
shock the American economy to this
point?
Al-Asuquf: By provoking a deficit
of between $50 and $70 trillion
dollars, the equivalent of the United States' GDP for five to seven
years.
Al-Jazeera: How will this be done?
Al-Asuquf: With the destruction of
the seven largest American cities,
along with other measures.
Al-Jazeera: By what means will this
be done?
Al-Asuquf: Using atomic bombs.
Nothing new here. Sollog has warned
for three years now to leave all
western cities due to the danger of nuclear attacks, which he says,
will destroy major cities and with it the global power of the U.S.
as well.
Al-Jazeera: With all of the
security in the USA, how, hypothetically,
will these bombs be smuggled onto American soil?
Al-Asuquf: They won't be smuggled
in, they're already there.
Al-Jazeera: What are you saying?
Al-Asuquf: There are already seven
nuclear devices on American soil
which were put in place before September 11th and are ready to be
detonated.
Al-Jazeera: How did they get in to
the USA?
Al-Asuquf: Before September 11,
American security was a fiasco, and
even after, were it necessary, we could manage to smuggle bombs into
the United States. They entered through seaports, as normal cargo.
Previously reported during the past
few years.
Al-Jazeera: How is that possible?
Al-Asuquf: A nuclear device is no
bigger than a refrigerator;
therefore, it can be easily camouflaged as one. Millions of cargo
containers arrive in seaports each day, and no matter how efficient
security is, it's impossible to check, search through and examine
each container.
Al-Jazeera: Where did these atomic
bombs come from?
Al-Asuquf: They were purchased on
the black market.
Al-Jazeera: From whom?
Al-Asuquf: We bought five from the
defunct Soviet Union and two more
from Pakistan.
Previously reported as well.
Al-Jazeera: How is it possible to
buy an atomic bomb? Isn't there
security?
Al-Asuquf: Before 1989 it was
practically impossible, however after
the fall of the Berlin Wall, the Russian army began a process of self
destruction, and some high generals began to lose their privileges,
and therefore, highly susceptible to corruption. Even General Lebeb,
now deceased, and Hans Blix, the head of the arms inspection
commission of the United Nations, have stated this, notwithstanding
denials by Russian Defense Minister Seguey Ivanov.
Al-Jazeera: How much does a nuclear
bomb cost?
Al-Asuquf: Somewhere around $200
million.
Al-Jazeera: How did Al Qaeda get
this money?
Al-Asuquf: We have numerous
sponsors.
Yes, quite accurate. All Illuminati
front organizations.
Al-Jazeera: Who are they?
Al-Asuquf: There are a number of
countries, which support us, and
also numerous wealthy individuals.
Al-Jazeera: Are all of these
countries Arab?
Al-Asuquf: No, there are some
European countries as well which have
an interest in the fall of the USA.
Al-Jazeera: Who are these wealthy
individuals?
Al-Asuquf: People who are also
tired of watching the USA suck the
wealth out of the rest of the world.
Not exactly. First of all they are
not exactly people, secondly,
they intend to take it all for themselves.
Al-Jazeera: Is Saddam Hussein one
of them?
Al-Asuquf: You could say that he's
just one of the collaborators,
through Abdul Tawab Mullah Hawaish, his vice-prime minister and the
person responsible for Iraq's arms program.
Al-Jazeera: Are these atomic bombs
powerful ones?
Al-Asuquf: The five Russian devices
are from the old T-3 missiles,
also known as RD-107s, and their potency is something around 100
kilotons each, that is, 5 times as powerful as the Hiroshima bomb.
The Pakistani bombs are less powerful, somewhere around 10 kilotons.
This is new. My information, passed
on three years ago, indicated
only lower yield suitcase devices.
Al-Jazeera: Can't the bombs be
detected and disarmed by American
authorities?
Al-Asuquf: No, in spite of their
age they've undergone modernization
and are well hidden. Even if they were found, they have auto
detonation provisions should anything get close to them. Even
electromagnetic pulses would be incapable of deactivating them.
Al-Jazeera: Don't they emit
radiation? Can't they be detected?
Al-Asuquf: No. They are wrapped in
thick leaden cases.
Al-Jazeera: A suspected Pakistani
ship was recently searched and all
that was found were lead bars. Does this have anything to do with the
bombs?
Al-Asuquf: Yes, however that lead
was just an extra layer, and was
not essentially necessary.
Al-Jazeera: How will the bombs be
detonated?
Al-Asuquf: There are numerous
methods, a cell-phone call, radio
frequency, seismic shocks or by timer.
Al-Jazeera: Once detonated, how
many deaths will be caused by these
bombs?
Al-Asuquf: It depends, since our
plans are very malleable.
Al-Jazeera: So what is the entire
plan?
Al-Asuquf: The beginning will be
the detonation of a nuclear device,
which will cause the death of between 800 thousand and one million
people and create chaos on a scale never seen before. During this
chaos, two or three crop sprayers that are now dismantled and stored
in granaries [silos?] close to little-used highways in the
countryside will take off on suicide missions to spray two or three
large American cities with smallpox. That means that once the
smallpox has been identified, all airports and seaports will be
closed by quarantine. Land borders will likewise be shut down. Not
one airplane, ship or vehicle will enter or leave the United States.
This will cause total chaos. White House Press secretary Ari
Fleischman will be very busy.
Al-Jazeera: But the American
government has guaranteed that within
five days it could produce enough smallpox vaccine to inoculate the
entire population.
Al-Asuquf: There will be
simultaneous suicide attacks against the
vaccine production plants.
Al-Jazeera: Which will be the first
city?
Al-Asuquf: The first city will be
that in which optimal conditions
present themselves, for example, clear skies, and winds of eight
miles-per-hour or less in the direction of the country's center so
that radioactive dust can contaminate the maximum possible area.
Al-Jazeera: Will this attack
annihilate the USA?
Al-Asuquf: No. But the process will
have begun. Who will buy food
products from the United States knowing they may have been
contaminated by radiation? Who will travel to the United States
knowing the possibility of contracting smallpox? Who will continue to
invest in American institutions? Just as with the World Trade Center,
it will be simply a question of time before the entire economic
structure collapses and turns to dust. If our objectives are reached
with one bomb and the smallpox, probably we'll save the lives of
others, however that's risky [unlikely?], and it's probable that six
more bombs will be detonated, one per week, and other attacks with
chemical weapons will be carried out.
Al-Jazeera: How many innocent
people will die?
Al-Asuquf: According to estimates
made by me and Ayman Al-Zawahiri,
somewhere around 15 million due to the atomic bombs and their
radiation. Of those exposed to smallpox, 25 percent will die,
approximately five million, and many more due to the ensuing chaos
and disorder.
Al-Jazeera: What about the American
military response?
Al-Asuquf: There will practically
be none. Even if five or ten cities
were chosen at random to be destroyed, that would still be a small
price to pay. The problem is the economic despair will be so great
that even economizing by not using arms unnecessarily will occur,
since the liquidity of American goods will be almost zero and at that
point the United States will make more selling its Nimitz-class
aircraft carriers, which cost about five billion dollars, to Turkey
or Italy for one billion dollars, since the country will so urgently
need to recapitalize, though it will be too late. Moreover, how will
the morale of American soldiers be knowing that their entire families
have died and their country no longer exists. Fight for what?
Al-Jazeera: And won't the global
economy also be ruined?
Al-Asuquf: In the beginning it will
be very difficult; a serious
economic crisis will ensue. However, without the United States, the
world will soon arise in a more just and fraternal manner.
Al-Jazeera: And Israel?
Al-Asuquf: As they say... it will
be dessert.
Al-Jazeera: Does bin Laden's
spokesman, Sulaiman Abu Gheith, know
that you are giving this interview?
Al-Asuquf: It was he and bin Laden
who suggested I give it.
Al-Jazeera: Osama bin Laden is
still alive?
Al-Asuquf: He is quite healthy,
alongside his commanders Mohammed
Atef and Khalid Shaik Mohammed and Mullah Omar.
Al-Jazeera: Aren't you fearful that
Al Qaeda's plans will be
discovered?
No, just the link to the
Illuminati.
Al-Asuquf: The plan is already in
its countdown, and nothing can stop
it.
Al-Jazeera: Not even if the United
States asks forgiveness and
changes its attitudes?
Al-Asuquf: That won't happen, and
even if it did, it's too late.